Category: Geeks r Us
So I'm wondering, how well does voice over work with logic studio and would it be worth getting. i need to easily do multi track recording and edit each track individually. Please let me know what you think/your experiences.
Voiceover doesn't work with all that yet. Still waiting. It works with Garage band, but not overly well.
Is there something i can easily use to do multitrack recording as of now? I havent' fiddled with amadeus pro all that much but i hve recorded some stuff. Can you give me a heads up or a tutorial that you know of that could assist me in this process?
May I suggest the following: Go to www.icanworkthisthing.com and find the link that says mac with voiceover. YOu will find guides for both gb4 and 5 there. Also, Amadeus pro for $40 is an excellent editor that will do multitrack and there are guides for it up there as well. Enjoy.
absolutely, Amadeus is a very good program for the money. Many of it's ffeatures are easily accessed via VO, and multi tracking is fairly straightforward. I find myself using it much more than the cake talking bundle of prodcuts. If I can be of any assistance, let me know.
hi guys, sorry to burst your bubble, but loic does work with voice over, as long as you have quick keys and a certain set of programs that a friend of mine wrote..I'm not making this up, I've had my songs produced in logic and this guy has no site at all. THese scripts do it all and I'll see if I can get copies for people. but yes, logic does work with scripts or whatever they are called on the mack, very well.
Really? I'm super excited now! I feel like I'll be a couple hundred dollars poorer soon, and my Windows partition will be a thing of the past.
Ahh, what can I say, Matt beet me to it.
I'm not actually sure what this guys doing as far as releasing them properly as the last time I checked the documentation was still being written, but i'm sure that he wouldn't mind giving them to people.
Some things that you should bare in mind however is that quick keys isn't free (£20) and if you have anything other than a 15 screen, these scripts won't work. Basicly, what quick keys does is to emulate mouse clicks with keyboard key presses. So for example, when pressing the key to arm a track, quick keys would move the mouse to the arm button and then click it.
I might have to double check the screen thing - i'm pretty sure he has a 15 screen and I don't think the scripts have been made for other sizes yet - matt?
I'm interested and I am not sure I'd want to pay for them as i've been spending a lot of money lately, plus I just found the I can work this thing site and it has been updated the last time i was on it so thanks willie. But go ahead and give me the guys info so I can contact him. Is this for logic studio and or logic express? I'd be getting a macbook 13.3 inch screen.
Also my other concern is midi recording and editing and I haven't found a proper midi recording program for the mac Perhaps the new mouse feature will allow me to get to some things the voiceover cursor will not allow. But I'd be doing a lot of drum tracks through midi in adition to line in through my mixer. I'm not sure I like the new combo jack on the new macbooks because sometimes i'd like my studio phones while talking through my mixer.., but maybe I can just get a splitter, or that may not work if it needs to be directly connected.
If those scripts work as well as JSonar does with Cakewalk's sonar i may have the final piece to my giving a mac serious thought. I always found the JSonar scripts to work fine so never felt the need to pay for the caketalking ones. I hope this thing happens with logic tha would be sweet though.
yeah yeah.. the mac's so great and wonderful... lets see, typesetting music might work, but midi editing.. I don't really think so.. and those things would work... until apple decides to force a voiceover upgrade that changes everything significantly... you're still at the mercy of apples reading. I'd truly help them out with accessibility but their ridiculous application aproval rigid store doesn't help... so .. bye bye apple.
For your information, the next version of Pro Tools is slated to be accessible, and come out in March or April. If you don't want to go with Pro Tools, rest assured that Apple will notice this, and update their Logic application to be more Voiceoer friendly.
Keep this in mind before bashing Voiceover for not being as accessible as you would like it to be. Voiceover is nothing like a Windows Screen Reader, but relies instead on the software programmers to build the accessibility hooks into their programs. In otherwords, if the company is going to draw a button on the screen, they have to label it with a text label as well for Voiceover to pronounce the text. The same goes with any kind of control or window on the screen. The company *must* put the access hooks in, and Apple details it very well. From my understanding, when Digidesign finally got a programmer on the Voiceover project, it didn't take much time at all to make the program accessible, as mostly what was missing were the accessibility hooks. This, in my estimation, is a much better way to deal with accessibility than what we've had to put up with in the Microsoft world for so many years.
Jesse hit the nail on the head.
"For your information, the next version of Pro Tools is slated to be accessible, and come out in March or April." Yeah... I suppose.. its just another over-comercialized tool that will take it's time to have another release. "rest assured that Apple will notice this, and update their Logic application to be more Voiceoer friendly." I'm sure they will, as they also support the famous drm logic, and the like. What if i don't wnna go with voiceover or logic? is there a problem with that? apple's arbitrary choosing for users is not something I'd like. THere are many other screen readers for windows and linux, why can't apple have another as well? from the looks of the accessibility hooks it seemed as though apple's working based on what NVDA is doing. Furthermore, a software is not just "buttons" to be accessible. What if I want to select a segment of audio exactly as i'd like, to then be able to manipulate it completely? sorry, but neither ap has yet provided such ease as far as "the mac" is concerned. "voiceover... relies instead on the software programmers to build the accessibility hooks into their programs." Yeah, just as we got audio captchas out there and sites like yahoo or myspace haven't bothered up to use them. Just as there are many flash-based websites that someone carelessly programs either to make money or just for the visitors. Even if the specifications are there and apple takes them by the hand I still would dislike apple's arbitrary process of "allowing/rejecting apps" I submit to their store for having things they don't like. Afterall, its MY netbook and I'll convert it into a political karaoke parodying machine if I want to. I've very easily and quickly found a way to work with all of my needs on the pc, as far as music goes. I can do a multi-track recording with scripts that are open source, I can do my own productions using soundfonts, i can write music sheet for all kinds of purposes, and finally i'm developping a project that will allow blind musicians to convert most music out there in ABC to music braille. There have been releases that contain this facility, but for the pc. I'm sure you're looking at the right places for whatever it is you wanna pretend to do with music. and I haven't had to pay a dime for any of this. In the meantime... logic pro will keep updating, protools will keep on updating and so will the mac. I'd really like to see a workable version of the power tracks pro or the other software made by pg music. But ... no, we're sticking to the most sold software because its "the most ideal" .. yeah right.And if i want a plug-in... oh don't get me started.... how much do they charge for those at music stores?
oh... and one more thing.. its wonderful that apple has made the effort to make voice over work with other languages, but its a shame on them, and very pittyful they make you purchase the voice for those languages. That smells like discrimination to me. So just because I'm not from the "great" North America I must pay more? 455h013z!
you don't have to use logic. or garage band. or mac for that matter. Yes, pro tools is a little over commercialized, but isn't sonar also? I see it everywhere! oh, and you can stick to your JAWS/WE which aren't curnle integrated. you can stick to your video drivers. You can stick to microsoft not wanting to kill off an industry, which, frankly, shouldn't exist. But that's just me rambling. and I'm a mac user. So I'm just a loser like the rest of the people here on this thread.
He's got ya their juan.
My thoughts exactly! Typical blind user who can't appreciate free screen readers that work different than the mainstream ones. For your information, all the things you want to do are available in ProTools. you can select audio, manipulate it just the way you want to, and do everything like in Sonar. Also, last I checked, there were no accessible DAWs for Linux. So far, it's Sonar in Windows, ProTools on Mac. That is all.
hm, wasn't wanting to start an argument lol, but I am really wanting to check out the new pro tools as i heard the podcast done on lioncourte a while back and the progress being made. I've never used pro tools but I know for one it is what godsmack uses to produce their albums. This next album they are wanting to have someone else produce it for them and am not sure what they'll use, but I'm really hoping it works because then this means I'll actually be able to take a course in college and be able to say hey....I can use pro tools. But as far as midi goes...I haven't really car3ed much about garage baqnd to try it out it seems way too cumbersome, but unless someone wants to walk me threw doing some recording, I'm not going to touch it in gb.
Oh hey has anyone had any experience with a roland jv 1080 from back in 95?